The species name has the qualifications to be a legally available name. However, the databases often also include judgement as to whether the name is different enough from other forms to be worth using. Otherwise, it may just be listed as a synonym. Although depositing a type in a museum is strongly recommended, and often required by a publication, it is not absolutely required to make a name legal. Homo sapiens is a classic example where no type specimen was designated, but there is not much uncertainty about the identity of the species and the lack of a type specimen is not a serious problem. On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 10:46 AM Greg Curry Sr < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi All Just wanted to Thank everybody for all this great help I rec'd.... > Mr. Paul if ok I will email you directly .. > But before I go I have a question that has confused me for a long time.. > Being an amateur I don't understand why a shell that has papers and a > holotype and paratypes is not accept in Worms or other databases ? > Best Regards > Greg > On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:14:35 AM EST, Callomon,Paul < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > The Academy has two paratypes of*Aurinia kieneri ethelae*, including ANSP > 196801, the one figured in the original description as pl. 2, figs. 3, 3a > > *Paul Callomon* > *Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates* > ------------------------------ > > *Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia* > *[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170* > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Conchologists List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of David > Berschauer <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2024 10:00 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Re: [CONCH-L] TOWNSEND COLLECTION > > > *External.* > My understanding is that it is at the ANSP > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Alan Kabat < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Follow-up -- for what it is worth, since Pilsbry was a co-author of this > new species, I suspect that the ANSP should at least have the radula slide! > > > On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 07:16:36 PM EST, Alan Kabat < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Here's the original description -- it was a subspecies: > > https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/8514633 > > Subsequent illustration of the radula, also referencing the Townsend > collection: > > https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/10576549 > > Somewhat surprising that the holotype is elusive, given the popularity of > this family. > > --Alan Kabat > > > > On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 04:19:04 PM EST, Greg Curry Sr < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscsTo > leave this list, click on the following web link: > http://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?SUBED1=conch-l-L&A=1Type your > email address and name in the appropriate box andclick leave the > list.---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs > To leave this list, click on the following web link: > http://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?SUBED1=conch-l-L&A=1 Type your > email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Dr. David Campbell Associate Professor, Geology Department of Natural Sciences 110 S Main St, #7270 Gardner-Webb University Boiling Springs NC 28017 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?SUBED1=conch-l-L&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------