Not to derail this interesting discussion, but there is a type specimen of Homo sapiens -- Linnaeus himself!

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260337719_Who_is_the_type_of_Homo_sapiens


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/297545904_Know_thyself_Responsible_science_and_the_lectotype_of_Homo_sapiens_Linnaeus_1758


Unfortunately for those who need to examine the lectotype, it is buried in Uppsala Cathedral.

Spamer's 1999 paper has this:

The lectotype of Homo sapiens had previously been selected, by Stearn (1959:4): "Since for nomenclatorial purposes the specimen most carefully studied and recorded by the author is accepted as the type, clearly Linnaeus himself, who was much addicted to autobiography, must stand as the type of his Homo sapiens"', which is all that Stearn had to say to select Linnaeus as the type specimen. As for Linnaeus's addiction and his qualification to be a referred specimen, Stearn (written communication, 1995) points out, "it may suffice to say that he wrote his autobiography five times" (see Malmestrom & Uggla, 1957). By the selection of Linnaeus as the lectotype of H sapiens, Uppsala, Sweden, simultaneously became the type locality since that was the provenance of the specimen when it was "discovered." The disposition of the type specimen is certainly known; it is not lost. In fact, a description of Linnaeus's body when interred is recalled from contemporary sources in Jackson (1923: 340-341). And Stearn incidentally observes (written communication, 1995) that the vault containing Linnaeus's remains (illustrated in Uggla, 1957), in the cathedral at Uppsala, is inscribed, "'Ossa Caroli a Linne', a remark relevant in a zoological context

--Alan Kabat

On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:53:24 AM EST, David Campbell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


The species name has the qualifications to be a legally available name.  However, the databases often also include judgement as to whether the name is different enough from other forms to be worth using.  Otherwise, it may just be listed as a synonym.  

Although depositing a type in a museum is strongly recommended, and often required by a publication, it is not absolutely required to make a name legal.  Homo sapiens is a classic example where no type specimen was designated, but there is not much uncertainty about the identity of the species and the lack of a type specimen is not a serious problem.  

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 10:46 AM Greg Curry Sr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi All Just wanted to Thank everybody for all this great help I rec'd....
Mr. Paul if ok I will email you directly ..
But before I go I have a question that has confused me for a long time.. Being an amateur I don't understand why a shell that has papers and a holotype and paratypes is not accept in Worms or other databases ?
Best Regards
Greg
On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:14:35 AM EST, Callomon,Paul <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


The Academy has two paratypes ofAurinia kieneri ethelae, including ANSP 196801, the one figured in the original description as pl. 2, figs. 3, 3a

Paul Callomon
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates

Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia
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External.

My understanding is that it is at the ANSP



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On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Alan Kabat <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


Follow-up -- for what it is worth, since Pilsbry was a co-author of this new species, I suspect that the ANSP should at least have the radula slide! 


On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 07:16:36 PM EST, Alan Kabat <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



Here's the original description -- it was a subspecies:


Subsequent illustration of the radula, also referencing the Townsend collection:


Somewhat surprising that the holotype is elusive, given the popularity of this family.

--Alan Kabat



On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 04:19:04 PM EST, Greg Curry Sr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



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