When I lived in China, I purchased many live shells at wet markets. Rather than saying self-collected, on my labels I wrote (for example): Personally collected live at: Tongchuan Lu Wet Market, Shanghai, China. May 17, 2013. Giving the judge the discretion to decide if it is self-collected or not. The shells I found on the shores, in water, or on trees, etc., were labeled as self-collected. Les ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?SUBED1=conch-l-L&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------