----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In response to Darius' query about maps, I remember finding a wonderfull map in the Brathens SAFE (I think that is correnct - it is the Norwegian internal airline) magazine in 1987. It as of western Europe and showed Scotland correctly. There was, though, no border between England and Wales and it had text that stretched from Cardigan Bay in the west to the Wash in the east that read 'WALES'. There was no mention of England anywhere! As a good Scottish Nationalist I kept it for posterity and probably still have it in a cupboard somewhere. It is not quite the same subject, but it saves two replies. Mr Blanchard has been asking about bias in maps, and of course this occurs all the time. I could give many examples where our maps have had to be politically correct - e.g. maps for sale in Turkey can not use any Kurdish place names. India and Pakistan are very touchy about how Kashmir is shown. Most recently our forthcoming Japanese version of the Times World Map & Database (to be published mid-year) has had to be changed from the English version to show the Kuril islands as Japanese, even though they have been under Russian control since 1945. Tim Rideout Bartholomew 12 Duncan St, Edinburgh, EH9 1TA, Scotland Europe The above are my personal opinions only!