----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Eric Is it the Josbach which was in Hessen-Nassau, SW of Kassel, NE of Margurg and at 50.54N and 9.00E? Sources used:- Andrees allgemeiner handatlas .....1912 [p.61/2 C/D 3] Der Grosse shell atlas 1986/7 mairs [p.43 ] U.S BGN Germany -Federal R. and West Berlin May 1960. With any luck sources like this are available closer to home! Have fun! Estelle Acting Map Librarian State Library of Victoria Melbourne Australia