Indeed you are a species all your own, Helmut! And every species needs a proper name. Shall it be... Helmutia innsbruckensis, Helmut from Innsbruck Nistersia tiroliana, the Tirolian Nistersia Conchophilus terrestris, the land-dwelling shell-lover Helmutnistersia conchifer, Helmut Nisters the shell-bearer Cochleicollator insomnis, the sleepless snail collector You could even have subspecies for different moods, as the fancy strikes you. Cheers, Andrew K. Rindsberg Geological Survey of Alabama -----Original Message----- From: Helmut Nisters [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 1998 11:57 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: AW: Re: Species Dear all, I am a species too, and what a species. And I don't have grandchildren, even children. A full species is able to make grandchildren, but there is no need as in human species. And a species has a lot to do with nomenclature and the nomenclature with species. Sorry for the moment I can't find the rules of nomenclature explaining what is a species. On a ceertain place can be living two species but not two subspecies. So you can see that species is more than a subspecies. Anybody - also the most silly and slowest in the uptake (I don't know any other word) could clearly see that Conus marmoreus and Conus gloriamaris are two different species. So I'll close the discussiion about species forever. yours Helmut Nisters from Innsbruck. ---------- > > It sounds great, Andy and Art! But... > > What about any Homo sapiens who does not (whether fertile or > not) HAVE grandchildren? They can't be a member of the species > because they did not achieve this criterion. > > There have been fertile couples who have had children but, due > various reasons, had no grandchild born to their offspring. These > people, also, would not be recognizable as Homo sapiens, having > failed the "true" test of a species. > > Is there some way to modify this idea to make it more applicable? > Maybe the test for Equus sp. won't work with us. > > Aloha, > > makuabob (a.k.a. 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