I have come to realize that subscribers to Conch-L are just people. I think some have bad mornings as well as good mornings. Some gripe at their cats, some smile at their dogs. All have opinions! Some split the arguements; some lump them together. Some go off the deep end; some just stick their toes in the surf. For any of us to take all of this as personal would certainly be an error. It is much easier to yell through your computer with the notion that you're not really yelling at individual people. And remember, some just like to argue! Let's not lose any more subscribers because of bad manners or thoughtlessness. And let's not quit the service because someone yells at us. Would you give up your driver's license just because you got pulled over by a policeman? We need the input, information, experience, questions, opinions, and yes, levity (pigs), of all on this network. Lighten up - and think of some kind words to say. Some of the recent comments have "no commercial value". Sam [log in to unmask] Delaware, USA