Guido, Where specifically have you found c. milneedwardsi near the Persian Gulf? Can they be collected by scuba diving or only by trawling/dredging? Don Lycette > -----Original Message----- > From: Guido Poppe [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 1:26 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: India/Mozambique milneedwardsi > > Hi Bill and Milan, > > yes, there are true differences. Bill describes the differences > beteween > both populations and having seen hundreds of each population, my > experience > is that the average size is larger in the Indian ones, but the top > sizes > (160 mm up) come from Mozambique in most cases. > The name clytospira I personally use for the shells from near the > Persian > Gulf, they are in general much smaller, seldomexceed 110 mm and most > have > solid bands of purple. These are the ones collected most often about > 15-20 > years ago and now only found in collections. > As well in India as in Mozambique, perfect shells are one out of a > hundred. > Reasonably nice ones you get a dozen/hundred. Most have severe growth > scars. > > Guido > > > >Hi Jasna, > > > >The authors of the Manual of Living Condidae believe there are > differences > >in these shells. They call the ones from Natal to the Red Sea Conus > >milneedwardsi milneedwardsi and the shells from Pakistan to India and > Sri > >Lanka Conus milneedwardsi clytospira. The full text on pages 314 and > 315 > >and figures should be consulted if you have the book. > > > >If you don't have access to the book, the African form is brown and > white > >while the Indian form has "pink" bands in the background. The Indian > form > >is also supposed to be, on average, smaller than the African form. > I am > >not sure of this as the biggest specimens I have seen on lists and in > >collections are from India. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > >Bill Fenzan > >Norfolk, Virginia, USA > > > >[log in to unmask] > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jasna Peternel <[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > >Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 7:29 AM > >Subject: India/Mozambique milneedwardsi > > > > > >>Hi, > >>I would like to know if there are any small morfological differences > >>between milneedwardsi from India and the same species from > Mozambique. > >>Thanks. > >> > >>Milan > >> > > > Visit Conchology, with over 50000 names with author, 3800 indicated > type > species, 5000 conchological images, and fun with shells. > http://www.conchology.uunethost.be/ > For Information on A Conchological Iconography > http://www.conchology.uunethost.be/go/iconography/index.html