Hi Ferreter. Join the club! The dentist pulled my right incisor pulled yesterday morning. Evidently our senses of humor were not contained in the teeth. I'm glad you are feeling better too. If I remember right, there are Swedish lakes with about 10,000 varves (annual pairs of sedimentary layers, thick in summer, thin in winter when ice covers the lakes). The fact that there were 10,000 of them gave the creationists pause, since the universe was thought to have been created about 6000 years ago. Most creationists have, therefore, accommodated themselves to the idea that the Earth is at least 10,000 years old. Geologists interpret the same evidence as meaning that the ice retreated from that part of Sweden about 10,000 years ago, so the lakes are of that age. It's actually more complex than that, but this is the "short" version since we are OFF-TOPIC again. Andrew K. Rindsberg Geological Survey of Alabama -----Original Message----- From: ferreter [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:09 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Conchs and cones The only website I can find to support any age on the bristlecone is 4,765 yr. old , off by a few years , a mere whisp in the ages of the rocks or the universe. It's still the oldest living thing (but I swear I've seen older driving around South Florida ?) here's the site http://www.sonic.net/bristlecone/intro.html Ferreter (who's wisdom is slipping , must be the bad trip to the dentist and the fact I had a tooth pulled this morning , but I'm feeling much better now :) -----Original Message----- From: Andrew K. Rindsberg <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 8:31 PM Subject: Re: Conchs and cones >20,000 years old? I suppose they were created with 14,000 annual rings, then? > >Andrew K. 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