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Subject: Re: Sanborn copyright
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:16:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Paige G Andrew <[log in to unmask]>
To: Air Photo Maps, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship <[log in to unmask]>
Colleen,
Do me a favor and go back to my email with the link to our Sanborns
online webpage and take a look and play around with it, then send me
some feedback about what you think please.
We set up the cataloging process to do it alphabetically via
town/city/village/community name since that is how the 25,000+ sheets
are arranged in our drawers. So, that is what is reflected in the A-Z
list on the website, I have lost track of where Preservation is with
getting images up but I suspect they are somewhere in the G's or H's?
I'll have to go look and see! The actually scanning is going faster than
the uploading process.
I know one thing, as usual, once something is cataloged and can be found
via an OPAC or even web-based search it brings patrons in the door!
Paige
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From: "Angie Cope, American Geographical Society Library, UW Milwaukee"
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Subject: Re: Sanborn copyright
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Subject: RE: Sanborn copyright
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:47:14 -0500
From: Cahill, Colleen <[log in to unmask]>
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Rich,
Alas, we do not yet have them online, but I did see that Paige Andrew
says he has much of this online. We will eventually get to them and are
looking at various methods to speed this process. Cannot promise
anything, but keep your fingers crossed!
Colleen
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Subject: Re: Sanborn copyright
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Subject: RE: Sanborn copyright
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:49:26 +0000
From: Boardman, Richard <[log in to unmask]>
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Colleen,
The two sets I'm looking at were corrected annually through either 1958
and 1967. There is a copyright renewal notice on the title page of each
volume (the date varies depending on the original publication date) and
it's clear that they have been revised. The quick answer, then, seems to
be that the updated volumes I have are still copyrighted.
Do you have any plans to put the first half of the Philadelphia set
(vols. 1-14) online (can't hurt to ask).
Thanks for your input.
Rich
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From: Maps, Air Photo, GIS Forum - Map Librarianship
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: Sanborn copyright
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From: "Colleen Cahill" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 5:52:53 AM
Subject: RE: Sanborn copyright
Rich,
Copyright for Sanborn maps is complex. As you state, anything 1922
or older is in the public domain, but even some sheets the Library of
Congress has that were originally published before 1923 have Copyright
issues because Sanborn did copyright the paste downs. That being said,
we also found that Sanborn did not always renew the Copyright on all
cities; it seems to have concentrated on large cities and many smaller
communities are now public domain. Unfortunately, you will need to have
a Copyright search on each publication to verify this; we do not have
the man power for this and are using the 1922 date as our break point.
We only putting up later work when we receive confirmation of other
dates being out of Copyright, mostly getting this from patron searches.
If you have the 1922 and early Sanborn sheets and there are no paste
downs on them, you should be able to put them up. If the sheets were
revised and republished, they would have a new date on them; be sure to
check the index sheet for updates. The Philadelpha set at LC is mixed.
Our inventory
(http://www.loc.gov/rr/geogmap/sanborn/city.php?CITY=Philadelphia&stateID=45)
shows that volumes 1 to 14 are pre-1923 and a quick check reveals there
were no updates, so we could put those online. The latter volumes are
likely in Copyright, so we would not scan those.
Hope this was helpful!
Colleen
Colleen R. Cahill
Digital Conversion Coordinator and
Recommending Officer for Fantasy and Science Fiction Geography
& Map Division Library of Congress
101 Independence Ave. SE
Washington, DC 20540-4650
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Subject: Sanborn copyright
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Sanborn copyright
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:46:49 -0500
From: Rich Boardman <[log in to unmask]>
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CC: Rich Boardman <[log in to unmask]>
Hi,
I'm a bit confused about copyright as it pertains to the Sanborn
volumes. It's clear that everything published 1922 and before is in the
public domaine but does that apply to maps that have been revised
annually? Do renewal filings count? The first 14 volumes of the
Philadelphia Sanborns were originally published 1922 and before but they
were revised on an annual basis.
I have volumes from the mid-1950s and mid-1960s whose copyright was
renewed in the 27th-28th year time frame. Does this extend the original
copyright even if they were originally published pre-1922? Does the pre-
1923 copyright only apply to volumes that were never revised?
I know this is murky territory but does anyone have experience in
this situation? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Rich Boardman
Map Collection
Free Library of Philadelphia
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