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Johnnie Sutherland <[log in to unmask]>
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Patrick McGlamery <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:23:24 -0500
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:46:26 -0500
From: Patrick McGlamery <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: RE: DOQQs of California <fwd>
Sender: Patrick McGlamery <[log in to unmask]>



Mary;

Your point is well taken.  The Library community has seemed to roll over and
give up on the DOQQs, leaving it up to individual libraries to press their
acquistions budget hard.  I believe that is a bad precedent, but... here we
are.

That said though, I'm curious as to whether it is worth it to charge.  How
much does it cost the UCal Libraries to collect the fees?  Is it
centralized?  Does your budget get it all back?  Are you getting lots of
little requests of a few massive one (or lots of massive ones)?  How do you
deliver?  What impact has it had on your staff?  Are you the resource for
the whole UC system?  If so, does the State Dept. of Higher Ed (or what have
you) recognize that with more funding?

We are trying a different tack here in Connecticut.  The state does a
fly-over every five years.  This one is digital and with LIDAR elevation
data at 1/4 m pixel rez.  We, MAGIC and spatial data users, have worked hard
to lobby the Governor and the Legislature to spend the money to put it in
the public domain.  Darned if it didn't make to the Guv's budget.  We are
all keeping our fingers crossed (and our pols informed) to see that it stays
there.  While Connecticut is a smaller state, of course it's budget (and
resources) are smaller as well.

Patrick McG.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnnie Sutherland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 4:34 PM
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Subject: DOQQs of California <fwd>


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Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:13:05 -0800
From: Mary Larsgaard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: DOQQs of California
Sender: Mary Larsgaard <[log in to unmask]>



Certainly, we would all very much appreciate it
if USGS would have the funding to provide libraries
with the DOQQs as a depository item, and I do
encourage you to let your legislators know that
USGS is an important agency whose products
are of great use to the taxpayers, and that these
products should be provided as part of the
of the depository-library system.
Just recently, I saw an email that - if I'm
remembering correctly - stated that USGS
is looking at cuts in its budget for upcoming years.

That having been said - the charges that
my department has for providing DOQQs to
non-UC libraries is a reflection of the realities of building and
maintaining a digital library, which as nearly
as I can tell costs more, not less, than building
and maintaining a hardcopy collection.
To date, the UC/Stanford map libraries (several of us
are putting our money together to buy these)
have invested about $22,000 over the past
2 years or so, and we still have about
15% or so of the state left to purchase.


Mary




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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:46:30 -0500
From: Tsering Wangyal Shawa <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: SUM:Orthophoto of Los Angeles
Sender: Tsering Wangyal Shawa <[log in to unmask]>



Map, GIS, and Govt. Doc. Librarians:

Is it possible for any of the Californian Librarians to help me in getting
Orthophoto of Los Angeles area (Los Angeles SW, SE, NW, and NE) for free
for my student?  I will very happy to help you should you need any
Orthophoto of New Jersey area for academic use.

Although a price for DOQQ from the ADL is very reasonable(see the below
email) I don't want to set precedent in buying DOQQ from libraries. All the
orthophotos of USA are supposed to be distributed free to Federal
Depository Libraries but trends are setting in selling these information to
libraries through institutions or through commercial companies. Many
libraries are not worried by this trend because at this time they are
getting their state data more or less free......and many feels that is
enough for their library. We, as Librarian have to think very carefully
about a long term consequences for libraries who are collecting or
acquiring these types of digital materials especially orthophotos.
Orthophoto, as I said earlier is one of the most important sources of
generating other geospatial data. We don't want to loss a chance of getting
this important data resources free from the USGS.

When I asked last time through this discussion group about getting free
orthophotos for Los Angeles area I received a few emails selling data. Some
are charging about $100 per quad and some $2.50 or $1.25 per file with
$45per hour labour fee.

Is there any good Californian Librarian who is willing to share their
resources to us??

Many thanks.
-Wangyal
Tsering Wangyal Shawa
Geographic Information Systems Librarian
Digital Map and Geospatial Information Center
Geosciences and Map Library
Guyot Hall, Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544
Phone: (609) 258-6804
Fax: (609) 258-4607
www.princeton.edu/~geolib/gis

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 >The links to the DOQQ data within the Alexandria Digital Library site
 >are not yet functional. We are currently selling the DOQQ data for half of
our
 >cost to non-University of California users. CIR DOQQs are $2.50/file and
B&W
 >DOQQs are $1.25/file. There is also a $45/hour labor fee for file
preparation.
 >
 >Let me know how you would like to proceed,
 >Greg Hajic
 >
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 > Greg Hajic     Map & Imagery Laboratory
 > (805)893-5122     Davidson Library
 > (805)893-8799 FAX    University of California
 > [log in to unmask]    Santa Barbara, CA 93106
 > Alexandria Digital Library: http://www.alexandria.ucsb.edu
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______________________________________

Mary Lynette Larsgaard
Assistant Head, Map and Imagery Laboratory
Davidson Library
University of California, Santa Barbara
Santa Barbara CA 93106
telephone: 805/893-4049
fax: 805/893-8799
email: [log in to unmask]
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