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Agree, that is clearly a crane, and one kids might have recognized from contemporary toys:



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From: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Edward Sullivan <[log in to unmask]>

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 1:05 PM

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Subject: Re: Identification of cartographic elements



Andrea Glenn's contribution looks like a winner!  T



here might also be an influence of the handheld breaker/digger/stone bars sometimes used manually in stone quarries:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digging_bar

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A digging bar is a long, straight metal bar used for various purposes, including as a post hole digger, to break up or loosen hard or compacted materials such as soil, rock, concrete and ice or as a lever to move objects. Known by other names depending on locale, structural features and intended purpose such as a hop bar or crowbar in Britain, Australia and New Zealand, and slate bar, shale ...

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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 12:48 PM

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Subject: Re: Identification of cartographic elements





Matthew has a good point there. There are many limestone quarries in Indiana as illustrated on this 1923 map: https://indianamemory.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15078coll8/id/2443/rec/534



It’s one of my favorite illustrated maps in our collection.



I think the general shape of the crane matches Santa’s pose.







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Andrea Glenn



Librarian, Indiana Division



State Documents Coordinator



Indiana State Library



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Indianapolis, IN 46202



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This is probably a long shot, but what if it represents the limestone quarry industry?? It would mean that Santa is not to scale, but it IS Santa, after all. Maybe it’s a toy quarry crane? 😊







The photos (specifically the 3rd one) here resemble the image somewhat: https://www.indystar.com/picture-gallery/money/companies/2014/02/27/indiana-limestone-co-has-a-history-of-monumental-buildings/5840821/







And here: https://quarriesandbeyond.org/states/in/in-photo_1b.html<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-3a4cf37d1610e6f0&q=1&e=68322cd8-cde6-4e19-8fc2-f4a6a18593fd&u=https%3A%2F%2Fquarriesandbeyond.org%2Fstates%2Fin%2Fin-photo_1b.html>







Matthew Parsons, Associate Librarian



Geospatial Data and Maps Librarian



Subject Liaison for ESS, Atmos. Sci., Disability Studies



University of Washington Libraries







From: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Christopher Thiry

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:42 AM

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Subject: Identification of cartographic elements







Hello all,







I am doing research on some 1930s General Drafting maps featuring Santa Claus.  Currently I am in the process of identifying and classifying each of the cartographic elements on the map.  I am having a very difficult time identifying and classifying 1 element and I have a question about another.



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What is Santa doing with the 2 sticks in the left part of this image of Indiana?  There is a string attaching the 2 sticks at the top.  He appears to be picking up 2 things & placing them in a box.  I do not know what the things are.



Keep in mind that this from 1930 AND the activities on the map are tied to the places, so whatever Santa is doing, it is common enough in Indiana that people would know what it is.







The second part is the right part of the image.  Clearly Santa is sitting at a desk on a stool.  He is using a pen (inkwell on desk) to write with his right hand.  But the red exclamation marks about the desk suggest Santa is writing with anger or at least with strong words.  Who is this an homage to?  Was there in 1930 in Indiana a stern, forceful writer who was nationally know?











Many thanks!











Christopher J.J. Thiry



Map & GIS Librarian



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Colorado School of Mines



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