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Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask]>
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Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc.
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Looks like NYPL has a 1964 edition.

https://browse.nypl.org/iii/encore/record/C__Rb11253255__Ssaigon%20l909__Orightresult__U__X1?lang=eng&suite=def

Angie
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From: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Andrew, Paige G. <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [MAPS-L] Saigon ca. 1950s

Michael,

I looked up records on OCLC with this title.

LC G&M, Univ. of Toronto, and McMaster Univ. have copies. See OCLC #234140498

Hope this helps!

Paige
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From: Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Fry, Michael <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 10:43 AM
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Subject: Saigon ca. 1950s

Hi,
I'm working w/ a researcher who's "working to trace the disappearance of several people from the Saigon area circa 1957-58, and to reunite the family members, including children, who were separated.": He's looking for (very large-scale) street maps. Ideally, said maps would show both street names and, if possible, block/building numbers. Looking for suggestions. Here's what I've found so far:

Perry-Castaneda (UTexas) has a 1:10k map produced by the National Geographic Service of Vietnam  ca. 1961, then copied and distributed by the US Army as Series L9012.
https://maps.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_cities/txu-pclmaps-saigon_sheet1-1961.jpg<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaps.lib.utexas.edu%2Fmaps%2Fworld_cities%2Ftxu-pclmaps-saigon_sheet1-1961.jpg&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40UWM.EDU%7Cb1ae2d3928b34e4739cd08d9b41dba8f%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637738862041686857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=cXM39CEhgvhVoWQOsSBrO1P5Vovxrr4s58KPxM1psKs%3D&reserved=0>
https://maps.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_cities/txu-pclmaps-saigon_sheet2-1961.jpg<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaps.lib.utexas.edu%2Fmaps%2Fworld_cities%2Ftxu-pclmaps-saigon_sheet2-1961.jpg&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40UWM.EDU%7Cb1ae2d3928b34e4739cd08d9b41dba8f%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637738862041706773%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=0HkTg4io2eBp6UGA%2F%2B4tOw%2BtDyMDQaYj84H0TwxjAHA%3D&reserved=0>

Our friend down under at NLA has a 1:10K-ish map ca. 1946 (https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-384253833/view<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnla.gov.au%2Fnla.obj-384253833%2Fview&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40UWM.EDU%7Cb1ae2d3928b34e4739cd08d9b41dba8f%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637738862041706773%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=zpybHshmE45mZ6YTbkef3r9yBd%2BFgcL%2BT4bdUSUzG04%3D&reserved=0>) and a 1:12500 map ca. early 1960s (https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-234149022/view<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnla.gov.au%2Fnla.obj-234149022%2Fview&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40UWM.EDU%7Cb1ae2d3928b34e4739cd08d9b41dba8f%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637738862041716729%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Z7NQaY8yKctmOB%2BGGfvfauUWRwWxJ85LF9KtgUFSJYY%3D&reserved=0>).

Worldcat sez:
Army Map Service Series L909 (Vietnam City Maps) includes a 1:12,500-scale "SaÌi GoÌn" sheet. (Worldcat: https://www.worldcat.org/title/vietnam-city-maps-115000-sai-gon/oclc/234140498<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldcat.org%2Ftitle%2Fvietnam-city-maps-115000-sai-gon%2Foclc%2F234140498&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40UWM.EDU%7Cb1ae2d3928b34e4739cd08d9b41dba8f%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637738862041726699%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=A7VDmZHePnStEhPdZ5dI3Eh9FIosCRLRBVU8fntS2I4%3D&reserved=0>) Anybody have it? .
A second edition was issued by the Army at 1:15,000 ca. 1968 (Worldcat: https://www.worldcat.org/title/vietnam-city-maps-112500-sai-gon-saigon/oclc/21395197<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldcat.org%2Ftitle%2Fvietnam-city-maps-112500-sai-gon-saigon%2Foclc%2F21395197&data=04%7C01%7Cacope%40UWM.EDU%7Cb1ae2d3928b34e4739cd08d9b41dba8f%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C0%7C0%7C637738862041736638%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Jf5cn4IMEXQzYjTi8KX079bso1VmZzsB%2FhyrH%2Fu%2B42I%3D&reserved=0>). Anybody have it?

Other ideas?

Thanks!
mf
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