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Joel Kovarsky <[log in to unmask]>
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Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc.
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One gets into several issues here. The situation is not entirely 
dissimilar from re-strikes of many engravings pulled after n artist's 
death. This is not an uncommon occurrence, and has occurred with the 
works of many prominent folk (such as Rembrandt). With respect to the 
map world, think about the commemorative re-strikes pulled from the 
original copperplate of Andrew Ellicott's 1792 "Plan of the City of 
Washington..." (https://www.loc.gov/item/88694166/).

         Joel Kovarsky


On 7/21/17 1:27 PM, Jon Jablonski wrote:
> I love you all.
>
> I want to say that the stone is the original and the rubbing is a 
> reproduction.  But then I think: we don’t consider woodcuts to be 
> reproductions of the wood blocks.
>
> What would Mary do?
>
> Jon Jablonski
> Director, Interdisciplinary Research Collaboratory
> Spatial Data Librarian, Map & Imagery Lab
> UCSB Library
> 805-893-4049
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>
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>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Angela R Cope <[log in to unmask] 
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly. And to add to the difficulty, I don't really know when my 
>> rubbing was made. So, can I copy catalog on LC's record? My map has 
>> many similarities in terms of marks but a few unique elements that 
>> ... make me think it was done at a different time than that held at 
>> LC. Yale has one too. It's the Yi ji tu and one other (I actually 
>> have two of them I'm trying to figure out).
>>
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/gm71005080/
>>
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:*Maps-L: Map Librarians, etc. <[log in to unmask] 
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Joel Kovarsky 
>> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> *Sent:*Friday, July 21, 2017 6:26 AM
>> *To:*[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject:*Re: [MAPS-L] Cataloging help - manuscript reproduction?
>> Angie,
>>
>> I cannot speak for how the catalogers will see this, but might it be 
>> hard to assert that it is one of a kind?
>>
>> The process is not so 
>> unusual:https://www.loc.gov/maps/?dates=1100-1199andhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_rubbing.
>> <https://www.loc.gov/maps/?dates=1100-1199>
>> 	
>> Search results from Map, 1100 to 1199 - Library of Congress 
>> <https://www.loc.gov/maps/?dates=1100-1199>
>> www.loc.gov <http://www.loc.gov/>
>> Yu ji tu. 禹迹图. Stone rubbing dated 1903? One of the earliest stone 
>> maps, it consists of 5,110 grids, each grid is ...
>>
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_rubbing>
>> 	
>> Stone rubbing - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_rubbing>
>> en.wikipedia.org <http://en.wikipedia.org/>
>> Stone rubbing is the practice of creating an image of surface 
>> features of a stone on paper. The image records features such as 
>> natural textures, inscribed patterns or ...
>>
>>
>>
>>       Joel
>>
>> On 7/21/17 7:19 AM, Angela R Cope wrote:
>>> Hi have a map that is a rubbing from a stone. So, it's a one of a 
>>> kind, hand done rubbing but a reproduction of a map on stone.
>>>
>>> So is it a manuscript or is the rubbing method simply the printing 
>>> process?
>>>
>>> Help.
>>>
>>> Angie
>



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