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"Johnnie D. Sutherland" <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Fwd: Re: seeking info on 1:62,500 scale map
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:42:19 -0600
From: Carol Russell <[log in to unmask]>


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Hi Maps-Lers:

I have been seeking info from the USGS, among other places, about whether
or not there was ever printed a topographic map sheet at the scale of
1:62,500 covering the area immediately north of the 1:62,500 Kilgore, Texas
sheet (the map I am seeking would be bounded by 32.30 - 32.45 N. Lat. and
94.45 - 95.00 W. Long.) I was told by the USGS library that the Moffat map
index to topos (WAML, 1947), which covers maps 1882-1940, does not list
such a map.

That area is presently covered by the 1960 1:24,000 topo sheets Gladewater,
Gilmer, Glenwood and White Oak, all published in 1960. We have a patron
looking for maps dated 1936-1950 of that area.

I am also trying to find out if there are any printed indexes (dated prior
to 1967)  to USGS topo maps. I have saved the old printed indexes dating
from 1967 on, and they show how the mapping proceeded from no maps to
1:62,500 to 1:24,000.

Does anyone out there have an index dated prior to 1967?

Does anyone have (I am assuming only Texas libraries would have this) any
maps 1936-1950 of the area?


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>To: Carol Russell <[log in to unmask]>
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>Dear Carol Russell:
>       The Moffat Map Index does not indicate a map to the north or Kilgore
>(#199), from 1936. You may want to call the map sales office,
>1-888-275-8747, Ext #3, to verify this.
>       There is a Factsheet on Historical Mapping at:
>http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/factsheets/fs15499.pdf and several other
>factsheets available online at:
>http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/pubslists/fctsht.html
>       Out of Print map reproduction order forms are available at:
>http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/pubslists/plofprl.html
>       You may want to call 1-888-275-8747, #3, to talk to someone. The
>person who made the copies has retired, and I'm not sure what their
>schedule is for these OP maps.
>       Alternately, you can use the Moffat index to maps (see below), and
>request those maps of interest to you from us through inter-library from
>your local public library. There, you can make copies from your local
>Kinkos or engineering blueprint reproduction offices. This is slower, but
>is a free service.
>       Finally, you can request these through a document delivery service.
>Private companies provide document delivery from the complete USGS Library
>collection and other major libraries. They will conduct research, locate
>documents, copy what you need and provide delivery according to your
>requirements for a fee. These companies will also respond more quickly to
>your requests than we can, and will send you the results faster than we can
>through inter-library loan. So if you are in a hurry for these items, we
>suggest that you use a document delivery service. A listing of several
>document delivery companies that specialize in the earth sciences can be
>found on the World Wide Web site at:
>http://www.docdel.com/Geology_and_Earth_Sciences.html
>       Good luck in your endeavors.
>
>Mr. Lee Hadden, MLS
>US Geological Survey Library
>Mail Stop 950, National Center
>Reston, VA 20192
>TEL: (703) 648-4302
>TEL (Toll-Free): 1-(888) ASK-USGS (1-888-275-8747)
>http://library.usgs.gov
>
>*******************************
>
>Reference                            See Serial Title
>045.2 W524op no.10
>        Title  Map index to topographic quadrangles of the United States,
> 1882- 1940 /
>       Author  Moffat, Riley Moore, 1947-
>      Imprint  Santa Cruz, CA : Western Association of Map Libraries,
> 1985, c1986.
>  Description  1 v. (various pagings) : ill., col. maps ; 21 x 28 cm.
>      Subject  United States -- Maps, Topographic -- Index maps.
>       Series  Occasional paper (Western Association of Map Libraries) ;
> no. 10
>        Notes  Spine title: Map index U.S. quads.  Errata sheet
> included.  Chiefly tables.   A graphic bibliography of out-of-print
> topographic maps
>published from 1882 to 1940 in the 15-, 30-, and 60-minute series for all
>states except Alaska.
>  Other Title  Map index U.S. quads.
>  Added Entry  Larsgaard, Mary Lynette, 1946- ;    Western Association of
> Map Libraries.
>         ISBN  0939112124 (pbk.)
>  Author (FA)  by Riley Moore Moffat ; foreword by Mary Larsgaard.
>     OCLC No.  11344675
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                       Carol
> Russell
>                       <[log in to unmask]        To:       [log in to unmask]
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>                       texas.edu>               cc:
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>                                                Subject:  seeking info on
> 1:62,500 scale map
>                       01/29/2004
> 12:55
>                       PM
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>Dear Sirs,
>
>I am trying to verify the existence of a topographic map at the scale of
>1:62,500 lying immediately north of the Kilgore, Texas 1936 1:62,500
>quadrangle.
>
>We have a patron that is looking for information on that area, specifically
>
>for the years 1936-1950.
>
>The oldest USGS topo map index I have is dated 1967, "Index to topographic
>maps of Texas, revised November 1967"
>
>This index shows four 1:24,000 quadrangles occupying the space that a
>1:62,500 quad would cover.  They are: Gilmer 1960, Glenwood 1960,
>Gladewater 1960, and White Oak 1960.
>
>Was there a published map at 1:62,500 (or other scale) covering this area
>prior to 1960? If so, how can I get a copy (photocopy)?
>
>Were there printed indexes published earlier than 1967?  If so, how could I
>
>get a copy or photocopy?
>
>Thank you for any assistance,
>
>Carol Russell, Map library assistant,
>Tobin Map Collection,
>Walter Geology Library
>Geology Bldg. 4.202 - S5438
>University of Texas at Austin
>Austin, TExas 78712-1101
>
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>copy to Dennis Trombatore, Geology Librarian

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