I believe a "midden" is a pile of shells discarded after having been eaten. Known also as a "kitchen midden". Paul Callomon Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates ________________________________ Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170 ________________________________ From: Conchologists List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Joseph Brunner <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 3:59 PM To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [CONCH-L] Self-collected shells External. As I am doubtlessly the root cause of John Timmerman’s query, let me provide some context. In the late 1980’s the Florida Panhandle was the site of a great deal of Calico Scallop harvesting. The boat crews welcomed free labor to help with unloading, culling bycatch from the deck and conveyor belts, and hosing off the decks (creating treasure troves of shells in the water but certainly not “in situ”). If I was on the boat when the scallop net hit the deck and picked up a shell it would probably be considered “self-collected”. If I board the boat as it docks and pick up the same shell is it still self-collected? If not, exactly where is the dividing line in the boats voyage where it changes from one to the other? A related question: When does a “trash heap” become a midden? Is there a time frame? Jim Brunner, Panama City ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flistserv.uga.edu%2Fscripts%2Fwa-UGA.exe%3FSUBED1%3Dconch-l-L%26A%3D1&data=05%7C02%7Cprc44%40DREXEL.EDU%7Cc40a296bf129409938da08dc30c48c3d%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C1%7C638438867921107491%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1ZMnqji5OyC2HZfNdYZSjkfgDQY38C4dRjJKbA3Di8o%3D&reserved=0<http://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?SUBED1=conch-l-L&A=1> Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] - a forum for informal discussions on molluscs To leave this list, click on the following web link: http://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?SUBED1=conch-l-L&A=1 Type your email address and name in the appropriate box and click leave the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
