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Subject:        RE: [MAPS-L] Gazetteers and Geonames
Date:   Fri, 11 May 2007 12:04:40 +0100
From:   Carlucci, April <[log in to unmask]>
To:     Maps, Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum <[log in to unmask]>



Hi Carlos

I would agree with Ed (hi Ed!) that if you can manage it, you should
keep the paper versions. In addition to Ed's points, there's also the
issue of changes in placenames over time, so that you might need
something older to search previous names.

Which brings up another point. Is the GEONet names server another
database that is happy to provide the latest information, but doesn't
keep the older information? If so, who does? After all, in the end,
everything turns into history!

April

April Carlucci
Cataloguing Manager and Curator of Modern Maps
British Library Map Collections

-----Original Message-----
From: Maps, Air Photo & Geospatial Systems Forum
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Sent: 10 May 2007 22:21
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Subject: [MAPS-L] Gazetteers and Geonames

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Subject:        Re: Gazetteers and Geonames
Date:   Thu, 10 May 2007 16:53:50 -0400
From:   Edward James Redmond <[log in to unmask]>
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Carlos:

If you have the space I vote for keeping the bound foreign gazetteers.
Some place name mysteries can only be solved by pawing through the bound
volumes for transliteration possibilities and  coordinate comparisons.

We removed the domestic (state) equivalents from our public RR shelves
to our closed stack shelves  as a) GNIS is easier to use than GeoNet and
b) there are commercial equivalents already on our shelves.

Ed

Ed Redmond
Geography & Map Reference Specialist
Geography and Map Division
Library of Congress
101 Independence Ave, SE
Washington, DC 20540-4651
(202) 707-8548
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Subject:        FW: Gazetteers and Geonames
Date:   Thu, 10 May 2007 09:04:11 -0700
From:   Diaz, Carlos <[log in to unmask]>
To:     GOVDOC-L (E-mail) <[log in to unmask]>, Government Documents
Processing Listserv (E-mail) <[log in to unmask]>, Maps-L
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I was going through our stacks to see what documents I can discard from
our collection when I saw all these old gazetteers from the 1970s and
1980s published by the  Defense Department.

As a result, I sent an email to the folks at NGIA to see if they publish
the gazetteers and if not, to verify if GNIS supersedes the old
gazetteers.  Response below.

Now, if GNIS does supersede the old gazetteers, is there any value in
retaining the old gazetteers?


Carlos A. Diaz
Government Documents/Maps
The Evergreen State College
Olympia, Washington
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-----Original Message-----
From: Flynn, Randall E. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:36 AM
To: Diaz, Carlos
Subject: RE: Gazetteers and Geonames


Mr. Diaz,

My apologies for the delay in getting back to you.

The GEOnet Names Server which you cite below has superseded the hardcopy
gazetteers previously issued by the Defense Mapping Agency on behalf of
the
US Board on Geographic Names.  We no longer have an active hardcopy
gazetteer publication program.

Hope this helps,
Randy

Randall E. Flynn
Geographer, National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
Executive Secretary, Foreign Names, US Board on Geographic Names



-----Original Message-----
From: Diaz, Carlos [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:14 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Gazetteers and Geonames


Dear Mr. Flynn,

I am hoping you can clarify something for me.

Our library has a number of gazetteers that were published in the 1970s
and
1980s by the Defense Mapping Agency.

What I was wondering was if the GNIS website for Foreign Names located
at
the link below:

        http://gnswww.nga.mil/geonames/GNS/index.jsp

supersedes the paper versions that were published that long ago?

If not, are there any updated versions (paper, electronic, etc.)
available.

Thank you for your help on this matter.

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Carlos A. Diaz
Government Documents Specialist
Government Documents/Maps
Daniel J. Evans Library
The Evergreen State College
Mailstop L-2309
Olympia, WA 98505
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http://www.evergreen.edu/library/govdocs/index.html
GovDocs/Maps Desk:  (360) 867-6165
Carlos' phone:  (360) 867-6251
fax:      (360) 866-6790

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