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Subject: RE: Re: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:01:58 +0100
From: Cook, Andrew <[log in to unmask]>
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Matthew Parsons
The answer is not as complicated as it's been made to appear. Francis
Herbert ought to have known to ask me. I've been working on British
Admiralty Charts of BC for some time now, and can offer the following.
1. The chart of Juan de Fuca Strait published by the British Admiralty
on 18 January 1849 was a London office compilation under Francis
Beaufort's supervision, using Kellett's fair manuscript and adding
information from US charts published by Wilkes and the US Ex Ex.
(Francis Beaufort, Admiralty hydrographer and publisher of the 1849
chart, is known to have had Wilkes' charts early from the US and thought
highly of them.) There are copies of the first published (1849) state of
the British chart in BC Archives (their map number *B207*) and in UBC
Special Collections (their former reference *2/18*). If you want to
obtain a copy of the first published state from the UK Hydrographic
Office, ask their Archives for *Old Copy Bundle (OCB) chart 1911 series
A-1*.
2. As with many Admiralty charts, particularly small-scale charts, the
plates were continually revised and reprinted. #1911 was frequently
corrected on the plate, with revisions from Richards' 1858-1862 surveys,
until at least 1865, and reprinted with minor corrections long
thereafter A new chart #1911 was issued in 1883 to replace it. That is
how your patron can find an '1849' published chart with Richards'
revisions of more than 10 years later, and how the UW library has the US
re-engraving of the Kellett chart with Richards' revisions from 1873.
During his 1858-1862 surveys Richards continued to acknowledge Kellett
as his prime source for the parts of the Vancouver Island coast he had
yet to visit. BC Archives have a number of examples of the 1860s
re-issues of the 1849 chart, and I can supply their document references
if required.
3. If your patron wishes to search for the fair manuscript of Kellett's
survey which he sent to the UK Hydrographic Office and which was used
for the 1849 chart #1911, he should ask the UKHO Archives to search in
their Original Documents (or Original Surveys) collection for just that.
If the manuscript survey survives there, and has not been either
discarded as superseded or transferred to the Canadian Hydrographic
Service in the early 1900s, it should be findable as one of the source
documents used in the construction of chart #1911.
4. Your patron may be interested to read the chapter I wrote on British
Admiralty Charts of BC in W Glover (ed), Charting Northern Waters
(McGill-Queens, 2004). I'd be glad to continue to correspond off-list
with you or your patron about the questions he raises: the subsequent
handling by Richards of Kellett's 're-naming' of features in Juan de
Fuca Strait which he did not know had already been named by Wilkes is an
interesting administrative and diplomatic one, and one which Bryce Wood,
in his topographical work on the San Juan Islands, only touches on. I'll
be away from my office desk for two weeks now (and all my books and
papers on this are at home anyway), so please send any further e-mails
also to my Dalrymple Research Institute address (in the cc line to this
message). I don't see Maps-L at that address, so please copy me in this
thread if it develops further.
Sincerely
Andrew Cook
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Subject: Re: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
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Subject: RE: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 21:37:30 +0100
From: Francis Herbert <[log in to unmask]>
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Dear Angie Cope and/or Matthew Parsons,
Having been a little confused by recent responses to this anonymous
patron's original request, today (Thursday in London, England) I decided
to take a look at a book - in which I get a modest credit by its author
(b. 1909) - confident that it would at least provide general contextual
references/sources of possible relevance to the inquirer. And it does:-
San Juan Island : coastal place names and cartographic nomenclature /
Bryce Wood. - Ann Arbor MI : University Microfilms International for
Washington State Historical Society, 1980. - xii,268p. : ill., maps ; 25
cm. - ISBN 0-8357-0526-9
Pages 207-224 - headed 'List of charts' - lists, and often gives a
location for, 108 items (quite distinct from the work's 'Bibliography'
on pp.225-243), beginning with 'British Admiralty Charts'. Item no.1 is
what the anonymous patron surely seeks: 'America. N.W. Coast. Strait of
Juan de Fuca. Surveyed by Captain Henry Kellett, R.N., 1847 [. . .]
London, Admiralty, Jan. 18, 1849 [. . .] Chart 1911.'? Bryce Wood points
out, at the end of this description, that "The surveying was carried out
in the summer of 1846, but the 'fair charts' did not reach the
Hydrographic Office until early in 1847"; this would then legitimately
necessitate about a year for all other associated survey materials to be
synthesized and copper-engraved.
In the light of the fact that the patron has tried "an archive in
England with no success" (which 'archive'?) may I advise he or she
should contact directly the United Kingdom Hydrographic Office
(Archives) in Taunton, Somerset as the most relevant repository of
knowledge in the first instance, c/o Guy Hannaford
[[log in to unmask]]. The National Maritime Museum, The British
Library, and Royal Geographical Society (with IBG) - in London - all
have some pertinent historical hydrographic materials (including
associated sailing directions or 'pilots' by private compilers and
publishers - e.g. A.G. Findlay) for the period. And all can supply images.
PS: Bryce Wood was put in touch (presumable ca 1978-79) with
Hydrographer of the Navy G.H. Richards' great-grandson in Bath "to
peruse the documents of his great-grandfather . . . especially to those
labeled 'Hydrographic. Private.' which are cited several times as
'Channer Documents.' "
Sincerely
(Mr) Francis Herbert (former Curator of Maps, Royal Geographical Society
with IBG)
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Subject: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
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Subject: 1847 chart by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:26:59 -0700
From: Matthew Parsons <[log in to unmask]>
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I have a patron doing place name research and would like to know if
anyone has an original chart surveyed by Capt. Henry Kellett, R.N. from
1846/1847? Below is an excerpt (for background) of our dialog thus far
regarding his request:
*Patron reply -* I really need the original 1847 from Kellett. What I'm
trying to do is trace place names from Wilkes through Kellett, then Alden
and finally Richards (which is the first chart below that you reference).
Any idea where I might find Kellett? I've tried BC Archives and an archive
in England with no success.
*UW Map Collection -* There are two nautical chart reprints in our
collection that mention Henry
Kellett’s 1847 surveys. Neither of them are directly BY him, they just say
that they use his survey work
Here are titles, and links to the catalog descriptions:
1.Strait of Juan de Fuca / surveyed by Captain Henry Kellett, R.N., 1847 ;
Haro & Rosario Straits by Captain G.H. Richards, R.N. ; Admiralty Inlet and
Puget Sound by the United States Exploring Expedition, 1841 ; Coast
south of
C. Flattery by the same in 1853.
<http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4516793~S6
<http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4516793%7ES6>>
this description includes a further link to an image “connect to this item
online”
2. North America--West Coast, Strait of Juan de Fuca and the channels
between the continent & Vancouver Id. : showing the boundary line between
British & American possessions / from the Admiralty surveys by Captains H.
Kellett, R.N. 1847, & G.H. Richards, R.N. 1858-62
<http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4517536~S6
<http://catalog.lib.washington.edu/record=b4517536%7ES6>>
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